There’s nothing like hitting a point in genealogy studies where you are chunking right along and you trip over a historical event you actually know or actors with whom you are familiar.
Sure, there are the big things like wars and immigrations. I have ancestors who fought in every single major American conflict over the last 300 years. I have had ancestors who have immigrated from Ireland, England, Germany, and others. I have ancestors who invaded England from France in 1066.
None of it compares to the feeling I had the other night when I traced one of my father’s ancestors up through Wales to a fellow known as The Blue Knight of Gwent. Catchy name, right? He sounds like a protagonist to me. Sir William ap Thomas.
There were plenty of details talking about where he lived, who he married, which castle he built, and so on. I scroll down and a line catches my eye:
“William served King Henry V of England during his first French campaign and in numerous subsequent capacities and was knighted in 1426. He fought in the Battle of Agincourt.”
THE BATTLE OF AGINCOURT? Okay, so maybe I’m a bit of a Shakespeare fangirl. Maybe I squealed like a twelve-year-old girl when I got the Hollow Crown trilogy for Christmas the other year. And… possibly… I teared up a bit when my brother and sister-in-law returned from their honeymoon with a leatherbound copy of Shakespeare’s Histories.
Me? I’m descended from a man who spilled his blood in the vasty fields of France?
Back it up! Who was this guy, William, and why was he blue? William ap Thomas was born in Wales around 1380. He was a minor member of Welsh gentry and was responsible for starting construction on Raglan Castle.
William ap Thomas was born in Wales around 1380. He was a minor member of Welsh gentry and was responsible for starting construction on Raglan Castle.
This Raglan Castle:
He acquired this property during his first marriage. His second marriage was to yet another heiress, who was yet another daughter of yet another veteran of Agincourt.
So the battle of Agincourt was in 1415. Upon returning to his inherited county seat, William became the steward of Abergavenny in 1421. William was knighted by Henry VI in 1426. Side note: I’m descended from a man who was called, “Y marchog glas o Went” – The Blue Knight of Gwent – on account of the color of his armor.
He was appointed High Sheriff of Cardiganshire and Carmarthenshire in 1435. In 1440, he was appointed the position High Sheriff of Glamorgan. In 1442 or 1443, William became Chief Steward of Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York’s estates in Wales. He was a member of the Duke of York’s military council. While William played an active role for the Duke of York, his sphere of influence was generally limited to South Wales. A fairly successful career chappie, in all. He croaked in London in 1445, but was brought back to Wales and buried in a Benedictine priory in Abergavenny. He was succeeded by his eldest son, who went by Herbert… for no apparent reason. Welcome to Genealogy.
But this area of my genealogy is littered with references to those who fought for our beloved Hal – and we shall be returning to the frightful fields of Agincourt with another genealogical tale soon.
O for a Muse of fire, that would ascend
The brightest heaven of invention,
A kingdom for a stage, princes to act
And monarchs to behold the swelling scene!
Then should the warlike Harry, like himself,
Assume the port of Mars; and at his heels,
Leash’d in like hounds, should famine, sword and fire
Crouch for employment. But pardon, and gentles all,
The flat unraised spirits that have dared
On this unworthy scaffold to bring forth
So great an object: can this cockpit hold
The vasty fields of France? or may we cram
Within this wooden O the very casques
That did affright the air at Agincourt?
Seriously, though, that castle!
February 20, 2017 at 11:13 AM
What! How awesome. I just watched the Kenneth Brannagh Henry V (still prefer the Hiddleston one though).
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February 20, 2017 at 11:43 AM
It was so cool to stumble across the Blue Knight! I’m researching another Agincourt veteran for a future blog post – exciting stuff. I think I read that he was knighted on the field? 😍
I adore the Hollow Crown Henry – in all of his plays. That monologue at the beginning of V when he rails against the Dauphin’s insolence and speaks of the coming war puts goosebumps on my arms. Every time.
I also used that adaptation to convert a few normal friends into Shakespeare fans. They thought it was a-okay until Henry started courting Catherine. Then they were puddles on the floor.
Score for the Bard… and the Hiddleston.
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February 20, 2017 at 2:58 PM
Shakespeare and genealogy sound like the best kind of afternoon. <3 SO glad you're keeping up with this- your readership wants MORE GENEALOGY STORIES. (or at least, your pixie-in-law does)
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February 20, 2017 at 3:01 PM
*scampers off to do research*
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February 23, 2017 at 9:59 PM
The Blue Knight of Gwent feat. Herbert
This is fantastic. XD
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February 23, 2017 at 10:03 PM
Genealogy win, right?
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July 16, 2020 at 8:20 PM
I came across this post while researching my boyfriend’s family tree. I’ve hit a snag with the dropping of surnames. Would you be willing to share some of The Blue Knight’s descendants to boost my research a bit? I have his tree back to a Robert Powell (Powle) born in 1508, then the Roberts and Williams begin to get muddled and trip over one another! If you don’t have the time to delve much into it, it would still be a great help to know if the Powell line does in fact lead back to such a fascinating character.
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July 19, 2020 at 3:10 PM
I haven’t done a lot of research into any of his descendants other than my own ancestor, but I can send you a few generations that might help you out a bit! Go ahead and write in on my contact page so I have an email address to which to send you a tree of those generations.
I’m certainly interested in doing more research in these branches of my own family tree, but I won’t be able to devote any meaningful amount of time until the summer season at the ranch is over. ;)
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August 31, 2020 at 8:07 PM
I have traced my mtDNA to the Williams family as well and have run into the same surname problems. It is much harder to trace maternal lines and it has frustrated me to no end. I plan to travel to Wales to try to find more answers.
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August 31, 2020 at 8:19 PM
Genealogy trip? What fun! I hope you find all the answers you seek!
I was doing some more research on this line when I realized that I had relied on an unverifiable website with inadequate sourcing. Sigh. This means I went one generation too far, and am not provably related to The Blue Knight. He was still an interesting cookie to research, and I do think there is a very close connection (if not blood) between him and my forefathers, and I do look forward to someday making this connection properly. Yes, the dropping of surnames is a challenge, and I think there is a real challenge with Welsh-to-English translations around this time.
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March 19, 2021 at 10:22 AM
I have also traced my family tree on my mothers side of the family, from my grandfather through to William AP Thomas, The Blue Knight of Gwent
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March 19, 2021 at 9:06 PM
It’s so rewarding to get back that far, isn’t it!
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